The Ex-It Strategy Podcast | Episode 66
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Unexpected separation and divorce are life-altering events, often accompanied by fear, uncertainty, and difficult decisions. At New Direction Family Law, our attorneys understand the emotional and financial complexities clients face. In this discussion, experienced attorneys Elizabeth and Sarah share their insights on handling sudden separation, finances, child custody, domestic violence, and legal guidance.
Sudden Separation: Understanding the Decision
A high-income divorce typically involves one or both spouses with significant financial resources, which can include business ownership, real estate holdings, high-salary jobs, substantial retirement savings, or other high-value assets. In North Carolina, there is no set threshold that represents a high-income divorce, but these cases tend to involve complex financial situations that require careful legal strategies.
When it comes to child custody in high-income divorce cases, there are several important factors to consider that differ from a traditional divorce case. Here, we explore how financial considerations and lifestyle factors intersect with the best interests of the child.
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Handling Finances During Separation
Financial responsibilities become one of the most pressing concerns during separation. One common challenge is deciding how to manage household expenses after moving out. Attorneys typically advise clients to pay obligations, such as the mortgage, directly rather than sending money to a separated spouse. This approach ensures clear records and prevents potential disputes.
Child and spousal support are calculated using established guidelines. Attorneys often run preliminary numbers to help clients understand what they may be expected to pay. This preparation prevents surprise arrears or additional legal fees. Careful planning and knowledge of financial obligations allow clients to manage two households without undue hardship, providing peace of mind during a stressful transition.
Child Custody and Support Considerations
Child custody and support add another layer of complexity. Each case is unique, requiring tailored strategies. Knowing the incomes of both parties is essential to determine what is financially feasible and to ensure fair support for the child. Even estimating child support before formal proceedings helps clients plan and reduces anxiety. Courts focus on the child’s best interests, so proactive planning can create a smoother process for parents while maintaining fairness and transparency.
Domestic Violence and Safety Concerns
Safety is a paramount consideration in situations involving domestic violence. Attorneys and counselors work together to ensure clients take necessary precautions while navigating separation. Early legal support, including protective orders and safety planning, can prevent harm and create a secure environment for all family members. Addressing safety concerns first ensures that legal and financial steps can proceed without endangering clients or their children.
Legal Advice and Consultation: Planning Ahead
Legal guidance from the start of a separation is invaluable. Consultations provide clarity on financial obligations, custody arrangements, and potential outcomes, allowing clients to make informed decisions. Even when individuals are unsure about proceeding, meeting with an attorney for information gathering helps them understand options and reduces fear.
Combining legal insight with counseling support enables clients to navigate separation confidently. By addressing finances, custody, and legal rights early, clients can move forward with a clearer understanding of what to expect. This knowledge allows them to focus on rebuilding their lives while minimizing stress and uncertainty.
Life After Separation
While divorce and separation are challenging, they can also lead to empowerment and emotional growth. Many clients realize, after completing the legal process, that life can be significantly better. Financial independence, emotional clarity, and renewed confidence often follow, enabling clients to build a fulfilling life beyond a difficult relationship.
Choosing separation often means choosing one form of hardship over another. Remaining in an unhealthy or abusive relationship can be damaging, while navigating the legal process of separation, though difficult, ultimately allows individuals to reclaim control of their lives. Understanding this perspective helps clients embrace the process and move toward positive outcomes.
Get Experienced Legal Support in Raleigh, NC
No matter the circumstances, having an experienced family law attorney is crucial. New Direction Family Law brings nearly 100 years of combined legal experience to assist clients in navigating complex matters, including separation, divorce, child custody, domestic violence, and spousal support. The firm’s attorneys provide guidance that helps clients move through these challenging transitions with clarity, confidence, and empowerment.
Contact New Direction Family Law today to schedule a consultation and gain the legal support needed to make informed decisions during life’s most challenging transitions.
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Podcast Episode 66 Transcription
Elizabeth: Hi everyone, it’s Elizabeth Stevenson with my partner in crime, Sarah….
Sarah: Hink. Yep. With New Direction Family Law. Yes. Some attorneys and partners of New Direction Family Law.
And we have an exciting new addition to the podcast. We are so excited. Not just for today, but ongoing. We said goodbye to Jen Bordeaux, she’s still out there in the podcast world, so check her podcast out. But she’s moved on from the legal sector and we’re excited for her. Um, but now we have a great new addition, our new Marketing and Business Development Manager, Cam Heinsohn.
Thank you for joining us.
Cam: Thank you so much for having me. I’m excited too. First one.
Elizabeth: Yeah, and she came up with some great ideas for today, I will say.
Sarah: Yeah. We’re excited to talk to you about everything and we’re excited to have her with us. Yeah. Today and ongoing. So welcome Cam.
Cam: Thank you. Rolling with the punches.
Elizabeth: Yeah, you just gotta jump in whenever you feel the urge. Don’t worry.
Cam: I’m here for comic relief.
Elizabeth: Really? That’s it?
Elizabeth: It’s so funny. I had somebody just today talk about that and the way they reacted to it just blew my mind.
Sarah: There’s different reactions to trauma and that’s what it is. A trauma.
Elizabeth: Right. And so he – the person said he just came home one day and she was gone. And usually you get a big bunch of emotions about that. As calm as they could be. They’d worked everything out and he was ready to move on. Now how long that’ll last? I don’t know.
Sarah: So he came home. She was gone?
Elizabeth: She was gone. Had no idea. Usually there’s something I always ask- have we talked about separation? Have you gone to counseling? No, none of that. We just got back from our vacation home and when we came home all the stuff was packed.
Cam: Was there some indication that they were not happy?
Elizabeth: Well, I mean, come on. Really? Yeah. There has to be some indication that they weren’t happy.
Sarah: I mean, it shows a lot about their communication skills, right?
Elizabeth: That’s true. Just bounce. Like where did they go for vacation? Hell?
Elizabeth: (Laughing out loud) But they worked everything out so there’s nothing I could really do for them. So, you know people can actually work together. Yeah. It’s nice.
Sarah: Yeah. Which is surprising in a scenario where someone just left.
Elizabeth: Correct.
Sarah: That they would be able to still talk.
Elizabeth: Yeah, I know. So I like that. And they didn’t have kids or anything, so that was a good thing too.
Sarah: Yeah. A lot of times I get, oh, he blindsided me. I don’t know what I’m going to do. He wants to move out and he’s still at the house though. I talk more and more about it. But this happened like a year ago and then it happened the year before that too. They never actually moved out and it feels like it’s sudden, but at the same time it’s been ongoing for a really long time.
Elizabeth: Right. But I mean, that’s it. We had some people, they both came in and signed off on their separation agreement and both of them were in the same room crying, you know. Not sad, but just like, oh, when you hand somebody a separation agreement, a lot of times it’s like oh shit, this is real. We’re really gonna do this. And it was very emotional for them.
Sarah: A lot of times when I have someone come to me and they haven’t separated yet, they really haven’t had that ‘this is actually happening’ conversation. Or if they have, the other party doesn’t listen or doesn’t want to accept it.
And you draft the letter that says, “Hey, I represent, you know, Molly, and this is what’s gonna happen. This is our proposal for the timeline of what we’re going to do with the house. We’re going to ask for financial documents so participate, please. Otherwise, we’re going to go to court, but we don’t want to go to court. We’re going to figure out custody.”
You put it all in a letter and you send it to them or email it over to them and your client’s just sitting there, on pins and needles. Like what is their reaction going to be to this letter?
Elizabeth: I know. And if you’re in the same house, that’s really tough, I will say.
Sarah: Yeah, and to think about what that person feels like when they get that letter. A lot of times it’s not good, and then they hire an attorney. Then the attorney is like, well, they were, you know, a little shocked by the letter they got from you, Sarah. And I’m like, ah, well…
Elizabeth: Really? Were they? Let’s think about it.
Sarah: Right? Like. You should have known, and I usually tell my clients, you know, you, you gotta pull up your pants here and have this conversation with your partner because you married this person.
A lot of times they want me to do it. I’m like, I’m not gonna break up with your husband for you. Like I will give you legal advice. I’ll write this letter, advise them on what is going to happen.
Elizabeth: Right, but you have to have that conversation.
Sarah: I’m not gonna go to your house and hold your hand and tell them to break the news.
Elizabeth: That might be a good side hustle. What are they called? A separation doula or something.
Sarah: Oh, yeah, that’s a good idea.
Elizabeth: I know, that might be my second career.
Sarah: Well, we’ll take that out of the podcast, and we will keep that reserved until we can get that business.
Elizabeth: Put a copyright on that, please. I’m kidding. Yeah. All right, so somebody comes to you and they’ll say, I want to separate. They don’t know anything about it. Write this letter. What’s your advice on how to go forward with that?
Sarah: Was there a conversation with their partner? It depends on some things, you know, especially if there’s children involved.
Elizabeth: Right.
Sarah: It depends on if there’s any incidences of, you know, violence or threats that have been there. Obviously if there’s some kind of threat of violence or domestic violence in the household, you know, maybe take more precautions about having that conversation. Maybe having a third party present.
Elizabeth: And sometimes it’s, “Let’s make a plan”. Let’s definitely make a plan in those cases, you know, let’s see what’s going to happen in three months. You want to get out by the end of the school year? Okay. We could do that. We could get you a place we could get you set up and then you can have that conversation. Right? Or, or if you’re out I can, yeah, I can step in and be your conversationalist for them.
Sarah: That’s a whole other like podcast topic, and there might be one in there already about domestic violence and ending those relationships, because that’s the most dangerous part of that domestic violence relationship is leaving.
But for anyone that doesn’t have that – to have this conversation, whatever your feelings are about it, you don’t need to go in depth… I want a separation. If we have kids, let’s not involve the kids in that. Let’s work together on how we’re going to tell the kids. Let’s maybe talk to a therapist, if we have a therapist, about how to speak to the kids about the separation and what’s going to happen… I’m going to get an attorney or I already have an attorney. I think you should get one too just to make sure that we’re doing this, you know, correctly and dealing with our finances, working through that together.
Elizabeth: Right. It’s a whole lot better. I always tell my clients – Don’t go in and say, this is what we’re gonna do… “I’m going to keep the house, I’m going to have the kids primarily, we’re going to split all our”… etc. Don’t do that. No, because then you already have somebody all pissed off back here and they’re not going to listen to what you have to say.
Yeah. I sort of say, “Here’s what I’ve been thinking. Here’s what I think would be best for the kids. What do you think?” If you can open the conversation, I think it’s always better for people.
But also a lot of times what happens is let’s figure out how to tell the kids, and then the other person goes and tells the kids. So you never know what the reaction from the other party is going to be.
Sarah: Yeah. And it’s really, and I tell my clients and when I first talk to them, like, you know your spouse better than I do. I don’t know your spouse. I don’t know how they react to certain things. You really gotta, you know, dig down into how to communicate with this person to have this conversation. If they’re very controlling and are a narcissist, right, it’s going to be hard.
And you just want to keep it very simple and limited to the facts and short and sweet and kind of make it seem like it’s their idea like, “Hey, you’ve seemed really unhappy, so why don’t we separate?”
Cam: There are so many different types, like kinds of relationships out there, and relationship dynamics, and to your point, in theory, you know this person better than I do.
Elizabeth: I always say that, you know him better than I do for sure. You know, and a lot of times I’ll tell my client, you know, I grew up in the South, so I know that if I make them think it’s your idea, and at the end I win, and you just have to sort of swallow it sometimes, and take it. Let them think it’s their idea, and then they come around a whole lot easier. Or go talk to your therapist, get a counselor, and let them help you make that conversation.
Sarah: Right. And so then if your spouse comes to you and says, Hey Elizabeth, this isn’t working. I mean that shock. How do we handle that situation?
Elizabeth: Well, I think once they come to us, they’ve already, it’s already been done. Whatever happened. How have you responded? There’s a text that’s gone out and I have been on Facebook. I got some Facebook posts I’ve made, you know, so here’s what I would advise you to do going forward.
Don’t make any more social media posts about this. Just don’t. You can text, but text factually. And if you’re talking about the kids, put in what’s in their best interest, and then let me be… you can step back and you can take care of your own mental health and your children and your job. And my job is to intercede for you.
Sarah: Yeah.
Elizabeth: And help work this out or you know, sort of reach out to the other side and you can tell you’re soon to be ex. “I, we can’t talk about this. It’s really emotional for me. If you need to say something, let it go through our attorneys or contact Elizabeth.”
Sarah: Yeah, especially when it comes to finances. I mean, I tell people, you know, if you’re able to talk about the finances together, that’s productive and you feel like you have just as much power over the discussion as the other person, like equal footing, then that’s fine.
Then there are cases where a client will come to you like, “Hey, we’ve, you know, decided on this, or We’ve talked about this scenario,” and you give them legal advice, shape it up to what is an actual fair decision on the finances, and that’s fine. But in a lot of cases people get railroaded in the conversation. It’s not productive. They don’t want to pay you child support. I’m sure they don’t.
Elizabeth: They won’t pay you alimony, I absolutely understand that. No. Yeah. And that’s where we step in, you know, and hopefully they have an attorney on the other side and we can work things out.
Sarah: Yeah. And it’s like you guys talk about the kids, the exchanges.
Elizabeth: Correct.
Sarah: That’s it.
Elizabeth: Right. That’s all they need to talk about.
Cam: Well, when the conversation kind of goes sideways, right, because obviously… usually it’s not a very pleasant conversation, especially if one person’s kind of coming out of the blue. How does that usually work? Like, what’s allowed to happen as far as, you know, I’m like, “Hey, I’m not happy. I want to leave.” But really, I want you to leave the house.
Sarah: That’s the hardest part.
Elizabeth: The hardest part of getting separated is getting separated.
Sarah: Yes.
Elizabeth: It truly is. Nobody, except if there is a domestic violence issue, nobody can make you leave.
Sarah: Mm-hmm.
Elizabeth: I mean, you may be miserable while you stay there, you know.
Sarah: Everyone’s miserable, and the kids are miserable. Think about that.
Elizabeth: They know, you know, and if somebody leaves, say you’re a stay at home parent and the other person leaves and doesn’t pay the mortgage, well, you’re kind of screwed because I can’t make him do that. Unless there’s a court order or an agreement to do that. So I say a lot of times to people, if you feel comfortable staying, if you are safe, you can stay together and we can work on this while y’all are together. Then we can sign this agreement and you can go, or they can go.
Cam: Is that like a perfect world situation?
Elizabeth: Yeah, it works. I mean, a lot of people do that. And then you’re guaranteed, everybody knows what everybody’s supposed to do.
Sarah: Right. And you know what’s going to happen to the house. You know what to expect as far as any support so you can make better decisions about where you’re going to move on to. So that is, that is a good situation. But it’s not, I mean, think about it, a lot of times at that point people are so sick of each other…
Elizabeth: They just can’t. But I’ve had people, I’m working with people where we’ve been at it for six months and she’s miserable. But he’s upstairs and she’s downstairs. And they can, I said, you can stick this out. We’re going to get there. You know.
Sarah: So Cam wrote some notes for us, questions about these topics, and one of them was, “Can I make them stay?” (Laughing out loud) It’s like false imprisonment.
Elizabeth: Like maybe that may have been, well think about this, why this separation came about.
Cam: Can I rephrase the question?
Elizabeth and Sarah: Yeah!
Cam: So like, um, more along the lines of if you decide to leave, then I am going to keep the house. You’re abandoning the home. You have no more rights to it. It’s mine now.
Sarah: Yeah, that’s not how that works but it gets said a lot.
Elizabeth: Yeah, I have a case right now. Abandonment gets thrown around a lot.
Sarah: She is like he says if I leave that I don’t get any of this, and abandonment. I’m like, no, no, no, no.
Elizabeth: The best advice I can say is don’t listen. Please do not listen to the person who’s saying I’m gonna separate from you’s legal advice.
Sarah: Yeah, because zero is correct.
Elizabeth: Just don’t do it. I mean, that’s the only thing you can do is all I can say.
Sarah: You can’t make them stay and, you know, it’s really hard to make them leave.
Elizabeth: Yeah.
Sarah: Without a court order.
Elizabeth: Right. And so sometimes people ask, well, how do I get him out? Sometimes it’s just, you gotta throw some money their way. You know, like if I know it’s 50/50 if we go to court, but let’s think about this. What’s more important? Your mental health, getting him out of the house or paying him $50,000 extra or X amount extra just to get him out? That is money well spent.
Sarah: Yeah.
Elizabeth: And $50,000 you don’t have to spend on a trial.
Sarah: Right.
Elizabeth: You know? So there are all sorts of ways that we can sort of massage things around to make people do the right thing.
Sarah: Yeah, there’s just a lot of emotions going on.
Elizabeth: Emotions, yeah, for sure.
Joe: I know that you have to be separated for a year in North Carolina. If you are living in the same house, does that count as separated?
Elizabeth: It does not, sir.
Sarah: No.
Joe: Oh…
Elizabeth: Well, there’s some case law that says you can have a separate entrance, like a basement.
Sarah: But. it’s not just that alone, like you have to put out to the world that you’re separated. So you can’t, like if someone’s living in the grandma suite in the, you know, backyard or whatever, you can’t take meals together and go out to parties and stuff together. So, I mean, technically even like, share marital expenses.
Elizabeth: Right.
Sarah: We tell everyone different roofs, you know, might as well make it very clear. Different roofs, different mailing addresses. You know, then there’s the whole reconciliation thing.
Elizabeth: That’s right. Yeah.
Sarah: People have dabbled into each other during my cases, which makes it difficult sometimes.
Elizabeth: It does, it does. So, so what do you, so, okay, so if this person’s come to me, and he wants to leave, I come to you, what do I do? I mean, I am at a loss. I have three kids. I have a full-time job. I’m scared to death. What do you tell him?
Sarah: If he wants to leave, the husband wants to leave, and the wife’s my client?
Elizabeth: Mm-hmm.
Sarah: Well, if he wants to leave, he’s gonna leave and we should probably go file in court.
Elizabeth: Right. I mean, that’s what I would say. If he is leaving, you don’t want to wait and try to work this out. You can eventually, because court dates are so backed up.
Sarah: so, hey, we can still work this out in an agreement, but we don’t want to have that fail and then be months behind on getting your court date.
Elizabeth: Right.
So you usually have to work, you know, have to move pretty fast.
Elizabeth: Right.
Sarah: And maybe before you file, you send them a letter. That letter we talked about like, “Hey, we need to do this,” and if you don’t hear within like a week or so. But a lot of times if they are an intelligent person that is moving out or whatever, enough to know that they need an attorney, they’ll get an attorney. Maybe at that point, you know, you can kind of intercept that, but it’s really a good decision to go ahead and file in those situations.
Elizabeth: I agree. And it doesn’t mean you can’t settle. A lot of times you get a temporary hearing, which is a very limited hour or so. And if you get a good outcome, it’s very persuasive to the other party to say, oh, maybe we ought to try to work this out without the court.
Sarah: Right. And just remembering the actions during that time period matters to the court.
Elizabeth: Correct.
Sarah: So if he does move out and he stops paying the mortgage knowing that his wife and three kids are there, his wife who hasn’t worked in 20 years, that’s not going to look good at all.
Elizabeth: That’s going to come back, you know, and bite you, really bad.
Sarah: And you’ll have to pay back what you should have supported, and then some. The court will punish people for that.
Elizabeth: They will. I agree with that.
Cam: Is it smarter to, like if I am the person who has moved out and I, um, am the breadwinner or responsible for paying the mortgage, do I give the money to my recently separated spouse so that that person can pay household expenses or should I just pay the mortgage directly?
Sarah: Typically, we advise someone to pay the mortgage, and then just depending on the…
Elizabeth: Yeah, if I know incomes I’ll… child support is by guidelines. I just plug in numbers and so I always… Here’s what I think you should be paying as child support. Because if you don’t, you may have to pay that person’s attorney’s fees and then you’re going to have a big back arrears that you’re gonna have to pay too.
Sarah: Yeah, so the child support number, you can just kind of guesstimate on as best as you can before you get at real numbers. Um, it’s case by case. But a lot of times for the support, spousal support, yeah pay that mortgage, make sure that’s covered if you can, if your support’s gonna be that high to cover that mortgage.
Elizabeth: But be careful though, you know, because you don’t want to walk into court with your client who’s been paying $3,500 a month, and it’s been a struggle, and then he gets ordered to pay that because obviously you can do it, you’ve been doing it. So if he has to pay, you want to make sure that he is not paying more than he should.
Sarah: You need to know the numbers, at least on their side, to know if this person can, you know, really support two households like that.
Elizabeth: Right, right.
Cam: Sounds like a good attorney knows the nuances?
Sarah: Yeah, there’s no case ever the same. Every case is very different.
Elizabeth: No, I agree with that.
When did I need an attorney?
Sarah: Well if you just got told, you need to call one that day or tomorrow, okay. It depends on what the hours are. If you’re planning to do the telling and separating, I think it’s best to have a plan and speak to an attorney before you have that conversation.
Elizabeth: And speak to an attorney before, if he’s moving out. There is nothing you can do about the other person, but don’t move out until you talk to an attorney is what I would say.
Sarah: Right.
Elizabeth: Because you can do things that I can’t undo.
Sarah: Right. You know, that’s very important. Right.
Cam: Working on the, um, like intake side of the firm and like kind of front lines and, um, hearing what comes through you know, we get a lot of, I think I might be ready to have this conversation with my spouse, or I’m not sure, but I’ve been thinking about it and thinking about it for a long time, and so I’m curious to schedule a consultation. Then, you know, we’re working through the scheduling process and collecting information on our end so that we can best advise and things like that.
And then we get a, okay, well I’m not ready, you know, it’s a tough decision.
Elizabeth: Absolutely.
Cam: And then two weeks later, we get another phone call because there was a big argument and it just kind of came out and, um, now they really have to talk to somebody. Yeah. And so it’s like a tricky situation because all the way up until it actually comes out it’s like, “Well, I’m not so sure,” it seems like for people. So they haven’t talked to an attorney. And you’re saying really, I mean, if you’re pretty seriously thinking about it…
Sarah: It’s just information gathering. That’s all. And to me it’s, it’s really scary. I mean, if you’ve been in a relationship for a long time and going out on your own, like financially, what’s that gonna look like? All these are big questions that are scary to even think about if you wanna move forward with separation or not. So having the answers to what it might look like will help make that decision easier.
Elizabeth: Right, and that’s what consultation is for. I don’t want them to walk out feeling like I haven’t solved your problem, but you know what your best and worst case scenario is. We’ve sort of talked about what you need to do and just giving people the knowledge, like you say. It just reduces their stress, which helps them be able to focus on doing what they need to do.
Sarah: Yeah, and there’s discernment counselors out there who will work with couples about this decision, if they’re gonna work together, or even just like with one person once out and help making that decision. And that’s one part of it is talking to your therapist about it, but having the attorney side, the legal side of what that looks like financially, what it looks like for your children in custody, that’s really helpful in that process as well.
Elizabeth: Right, and it does get better. If you’ve had them for two or three years, you get really connected to clients, and when they come to you and somebody’s told them this, they are a mess. I mean, just a mess. And then it’s like, going to court and just like, now they’re mad, you know, and they get through that and then they get to the other side and it’s like, oh, this is… Now that I think about it, this is pretty damn good.
Sarah: Yeah.
Elizabeth: I didn’t realize what I was living in.
Sarah: They’ve been on a divorce diet, they’re looking great, you know, and they’ve got the new wardrobe and they’re powerful again, and they got their strength back and are happy.
Elizabeth: Yeah. So, you know, there is another side.
Sarah: Yeah.
Elizabeth: Right. So it just takes a little time to get there and that’s what we’re for, is to help you go through that process.
Cam: Yeah. I can’t remember who I heard this from or you know, where it came from, but, bad marriage can be hard, and divorce can be hard, so you just choose your hard.
Elizabeth: That’s right. That’s exactly right. It’s like, going back to, you know, people who are in a, um, abusive relationship, they don’t realize it because it’s their norm, right? So if you’re, if you’re in a bad marriage and somebody, you know, you’re doing all the work and they’re blah, blah, blah, blah, you don’t know it because that’s just what you’re used to.
And then you see, oh, there is another side, there is more out there.
Sarah: My heart breaks when I tell clients, when they’re explaining their relationship to me and what the other person might say to them, and I’m like, that’s not normal.
Elizabeth: Right.
Sarah: That’s not okay.
Elizabeth: And then you see them, you see this light go off and they… Oh, you’re, you’re right. You know? Yeah. So I think, you know, we’re not counselors, but as an attorney and counselor at law, I think we can help people sort of realize, oh, my life can be better. And then let me go see a professional that can help me do that side of it and I’ll let Sarah and Elizabeth do the legal side of it.
Sarah: Right, and get you to the other side.
Elizabeth: Right. Exactly. Yep.
Sarah: Mm-hmm.
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